The history of marriage
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I can't add anything to this. But it's history, not confusion. Click on the counterpunch link for the full story.
posted by Chuck Rightmire at 10:48 PM
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David, I submit it's because we have let the right over the past 20 years dictate what is moral and correct in this country. Alvin Toffler proposed a number of years ago that we are in the middle of a major turning point in the history of humankind. The people who fear change are being swept forward, I suggest, willy nilly, and are digging in their heels and holding on with a tight grip to a past the really didn't exist. It's a heightened sense of what their grandparents felt when their children (the parents) felt when we started driving around in cars and parking in lover's lanes, only stronger because it is a more revolutionary crisis.
In the next 20 years, certainly in the next half century, we will see huge changes in the human condition. From my view of brain science, there is a race right now as to whether we will develop human intelligence first or if we will find a way to directly link human brains to computer ware. If it is the latter, then AI may fade away. We are very near ways to control the human genome to change the appearance of humans, to enable parents to select sex and other traits of a child.
I have lived through the beginning of television in this country, the development of the computer, miniaturization where I can carry more artificial calculating power in my shirt pocket today than was available on the entire earth (as far as I know) in the year of my birth. When my father-in-law, born in 1900, was four bandits escaped from his town riding a buckboard. He lived to fly in jets across a continent. Change is so dramatic that people today have lived through more revolutions in behavior than those of a millenia ago did in thousand years. No wonder people are scared and clinging to a past that never was except in the imaginations of demagogues.
I get the feeling that you are young enough that you will see the world change in many ways. I may see the first ones if they happen fast enough. And people will continue to meet change as they have in the past: with fear.
The arguements are going to be ended by the voters soon enough. The lopsided results from Missouri defining marraige will be the norm.
Yes, Eric, it may well be that way. And it will show that bigotry, not rationality still exists in this world. It also may indicate that we are well on the road to really having "one god" and you can only hope that it's yours. David, I hear what you were saying. I was born and an adult living in the world where gay was never used. The defining word was "queer." My brother once heard of a gay person living in a small Montana town and wondered what his world was like? Montana has become, in all ways, the center of a lot of bigotry and hatred since I grew up here. On the other hand, and to be honest, small Montana towns in the 1970s were the first places where I heard of an unmarried mother being accepted by the community as a full-fledged member. Maybe there's hope yet. But the stupid may lock bigotry into the state constitution.
So Chuck, in Missouri, the over 70% that voted to define marraige are guilty of bigotry?
Or is it just possible, on a real stretch of imagination, that most people think marraige between a man & a woman is normal behavior?
Well said, David.
So let's get this straight - in your opinion(s) the people of Missouri are bigots, and in November the people in Montana, Michigan, Arkansas, Oregon, North Dakota, and Ohio will all be bigots too when they define marraige at the polls?
Montana already has a law against same sex marriage, Eric, and yes, if Montana, which has had a long history of various kinds of bigotry, votes to put the ban in our state Constitution, it will be bigotry. What else could it be?
Well David, when I see gays openly necking on the park benches in Billings, then you'll have a much better chance of convincing me what a large segment of our community they represent!
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